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Aug 21 2008

Be careful what you ask for

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I’ve often, to myself anyway, bemoaned the fact that nothing “interesting” ever seems to happen. I always see other people with stories of assisting at Mass with a Cardinal from the Vatican, or people helping to restore a church to beauty or having people approach them out of the blue to ask something about the Church. It’s the last one that really gets me for some reason – nobody ever seems to talk about anything religion-related even anywhere near me – it’s almost like I have a warning sign hanging aorund my neck or something. Or so I thought.

Thanks to a very crazy schedule I took my son to his Karate class tonight, not when we normally go. I sat there for the most of class watching him and scanning through the latest edition of First Things. Then I realized the people in front of me were talking about going to church and what a relationship with Jesus meant to them and the like. Just hearing that at all put a smile on my face since public shows of religion are, as I’ve said, pretty rare around here. Then I heard one of them say “I can’t believe they call him ‘Holy Father’ – don’t they know nobody is holy but God the Father?” My face, needless to say, dropped.

It didn’t stop there. I couldn’t catch the whole of the conversation because I was trying to be subtle and not be too obvious that they’d piqued my attention. Suffice it to say other classic and now-classic anti-Catholic statements were made including the usual trope about priestly celibacy which necessarily led to and revolved around the sex abuse scandal. I was, to say the least, no longer excited to hear this conversation. But I just couldn’t decide – was this the time to drop my nickel into this conversation or was it sufficiently inappropriate to butt in? Do I stand up and defend Holy Mother Church or do I suffer the indignity of having to hear their poorly informed slander and pray for their enlightenment?

What did I do in the end? I choked. Yup, dropped the ball straight on the floor. I let myself hide behind indecision and wound up doing neither. What really hurts about is that, simply, I know better. Do I pray now for their enlightenment? Absolutely, and a chance to be the one to bring that enlightenment about if it be God’s will. But I also know why God hasn’t dropped that type of discussion in my lap until now – I’ve just been not ready for it. Am I ready for it now? I don’t know, but I do know that the pain of listening to people slam Holy Mother Church unopposed is something I don’t want to have to go through again. Sometimes God gives us “put up or shut up” moments. I only hope I choose the right one if this comes to me again.

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Jul 24 2008

Peter, a rock and a stone

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In the Catholic-Protestant apologetics world somewhere early in every apologist’s career they’re faced with the issue of how to interpret Matthew 16:18 where we find Jesus telling Simon, “[a]nd so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it.” For Catholics it is one of the proofs Jesus intended Peter to be the visible head of the Church. For Protestants it is either ignored or, quite often, worked around by an appeal to the Greek.

In the Greek the words translated above as “Peter” and “rock” are transliterated as “Petros” and “petra” respectively. The masculine “Petros” means effectively “small stone” or “pebble” while the feminine “petra” means “large stone”. Protestant apologists will say this shows that Jesus was not suggesting Peter would be the Rock upon which the Church would be built but rather Jesus Himself. That argument has been answered a plethora of times (a quick search finds at least this, I’m sure you can find more if you want – suffice it to say it’s a rather weak argument at best) and is not what I’m aiming to talk about here.

What I want to do instead is to briefly take advantage of the whole “pebble” thing and look at it from a different perspective. The Protestant perspective would suggest the “small stone” interpretation means Peter was too insubstantial to be the “Rock” upon which the Church was built. But let us think for just a minute about what other time a small stone has played a major role in salvation history:

Then, staff in hand, David selected five smooth stones from the wadi and put them in the pocket of his shepherd’s bag. With his sling also ready to hand, he approached the Philistine.

David put his hand into the bag and took out a stone, hurled it with the sling, and struck the Philistine on the forehead. The stone embedded itself in his brow, and he fell prostrate on the ground. (Thus David overcame the Philistine with sling and stone; he struck the Philistine mortally, and did it without a sword.) (1 Sam 17:40,49-50)

David, the great king and patriarch of the line ordained from the beginning of time to lead to the Christ, used a small stone to slay the great enemy of Israel. A small stone, the weapon of a child and a shepherd – not a sword, the weapon of a warrior.

The parallels continue. David hurled the stone and struck the Philistine in the brow – if you will, struck him in his intellectual center, the “nerve center”. If you’ll allow a slight poetic license, Peter was similarly picked up from Israel and “hurled” to the very nerve center of the Roman Empire, Rome itself. God planted him in the very brow of the great Babylon as he hung upon his own inverted cross, as mortal a wound to Rome as the stone with which David struck Goliath.

So yes, maybe the whole “rock”/”small stone” issue is due to a misunderstanding about order of translations. But maybe it’s also providential that this very issue has come to us. If nothing else, it serves to remind us that we too are “hurled” into the center of our modern Babylon and only by doing what we are called to do can God use us as He used Peter. “The blood of Christians is seed.” Be planted, that the Church may grow.

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Mar 22 2007

Say what about Judas?

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There’s been a bit of a tempest lately about this new “Gospel of Judas” by Jeffrey Archer. My first reaction was a cynical “so what else is new”. That’s probably not a good thing to have to admit. Then I got to thinking, “you know, there are probably a few people who just might get suckered in to believing what’s in there”. For that, I’m most grateful to the rapid and comprehensive witness to the truth delivered by all those in St. Blog’s.

For that matter, I’m in agreement with Jimmy Akin when he says:

I don’t know what it is with authors (and filmmakers) who want to rehabilitate Judas in this fashion.

But I suspect it’s this: They themselves have an uneasy conscience.

They themselves feel that they have betrayed Christ (as have we all by our sins), but rather than throw themselves on Christ’s mercy and accepting his grace, they want to rationalize or excuse their sins and so–using the character of Judas as a psychological surrogate for themselves–they rationalize and excuse his in fictional form.

The underlying psychological message they’re trying to give themselves is: Hey, if Judas didn’t really betray Christ–if he was a tragic victim of circumstance–then that’s what I am, too. I haven’t really betrayed him. I’m just a victim of fate, too, and I’m not really responsible for what I’ve done.

By their lives of Judas you shall know them.

That is a message we can’t get through to people fast or deeply enough. If you run into someone pretending to have some deep knowledge (or is that, “gnosis“?) that the Early Church was busy covering up, you’ve probably run into someone who is busy doing what they call in psychology “transference”. They have problems, so they transfer them to the Church and voila everything makes sense again. Kind of like those Pharisees of old who refused to believe what was standing in front of them and made up their own interpretation of history to conform to their intentions.

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Feb 26 2007

God doesn’t waste opportunities

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Reading Fr. Martin Fox’s post about the “Jesus tomb” fiascostory got me to thinking. Among other very insightful statements, he says:

It’s providential insofar as it will occasion quite a bit of discussion about what Resurrection means.

Another way it’s providential is that it will help clarify who stands for what, and help Christians realize the scalding hatred that is and always will be directed against our Lord.

Some will no doubt say that’s a case of whistling past the graveyard, that this is yet another heavy attack on Christianity in general and Catholicism in particular (albeit only slightly more in this case, unlike Da Vinci). Certainly, there will be some few whose already very weak faith in Christ and his Church is shaken to the breaking point, and for them we feel and moreso pray. But the truth is simply that this attack will not lead to the emptying of churches, just as Da Vinci failed to spark mass exodus.

More is waiting for us, however. God does not waste opportunities, and it is up to us to make true and full what Fr. Fox states above, that this attack of woefully inadequate intellectual proportions becomes instead a providential opportunity to reinforce the faith of those who may be inclined to believe in it and find their faith in a loving God who lived, breathed, suffered, died and rose for each and every one of them and maybe, just maybe it will become an opportunity for the catechesis we have been longing for.

We should be thankful Mr. Cameron was, frankly, stupid enough to bring this story out at a time when the Church (Catholic and catholic) is more focused on what it is and what it is called to be than at any other time in the year. Deny Easter when people are so tightly focused on deepening their understanding of what Easter is, how it is true and why it matters. What a feat of incompetent marketing. They’ve done their part – the question is, do we do our part? God doesn’t waste opportunities – will we?

Update: I see The Anchoress has also made the same type of statement, saying, “I think it’s an extraordinarly good thing that this issue is coming up during Lent, when we’re already supposed to be in a mindset of humility and conciliation.” I’d say great minds think alike, but I don’t want to insult her.

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Jan 08 2007

Do you know your English Translation history?

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Amy has a post up that starts with Thomas More and in the comments moves rapidly to some great information on the early history of the English translation of the Bible, including information that would be useful to anyone in, or forced in to, apologetics on that subject. Be absolutely sure to read all the comments – it’s another one of those blogosphere goldmines.

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Dec 12 2006

Grosswirth spills a load

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Rich Leonardi has been keeping a tremendous eye on this situation.

Ray Grosswirth, he of the recent ordination by everyone’s favorite bishop Emanuel Millingo, apparently fashions himself to be a modern-day Martin Luther. At his blog he has posted his “40 Theses on Mandated Clerical Celibacy”. I suppose he didn’t want the trespassing and vandalization charges nailing them to a cathedral door would have offered him (a sign, perhaps, that he does not fully embrace personal sacrifice? Hmm…). To call them discursive is to do a disservice to the term. His “theses” and my responses follow. I hope those who are even more versed in the long, long history of clerical celibacy will pipe in here.

1.) When Jesus invited his disciples to follow him, he did not instruct them to leave their spouses behind.

Well, to start with we should quote Luke 18:29-30, “‘I tell you the truth,’ Jesus said to them, ‘no one who has left home or wife or brothers or parents or children for the sake of the kingdom of God will fail to receive many times as much in this age and, in the age to come, eternal life.’” While obviously not a strident order this lays the groundwork. As does Matthew 19:12 where Jesus says, “Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it.” So much for a sola scriptura basis for his assertion.

2.) Mandated celibacy violates natural law.

See 1) above. And further, I don’t entirely see his argument that it violates natural law. Men and women were not put on this earth to procreate primarily (despite the arguments of the neo-Darwinists) but rather, as the Baltimore Catechism would tell us, to know and to love God. If celibacy for some helps to that end it must be seen as a good. Further, it’s not like the Church is telling an entire group of people they must be celibate who have no choice otherwise. While the call comes from God, the response comes from the one called. This is a far cry from forced sterilization, particularly in light of the fact that the response which is a prerequisite to ordination is explicitly voluntary.

3.) Mandated celibacy celebrates a male hierarchy and diminishes the role of women.

How he can suggest this and keep a straight face I’ll never know. Is this to suggest that women are incapable of celibacy (see: all the orders of faithful nuns and the non-professed who retain their celibacy for the good of the kingdom)? No, I don’t think he’s being that simplistic, I believe he is attempting to conflate the issue of priestly celibacy with the issue of ordination of women. If in fact he wishes to argue about both issues that’s fine, but to pretend they are one and the same is at best dishonest.

4.) Mandated celibacy can lead to sexual frustration; sexual frustration can lead to sexual abuse.

Marriage can lead to sexual frustration. So can the inability to find a suitable spouse. So can many other issues, including medical issues. Need we review the recent highly publicized cases of teachers raping their students? Should we mention the fact these teachers are almost invariably married? By his logic, their marriages led to this sexual abuse therefore the institution of marriage is at fault. Brilliant.

5.) The primary beneficiary of mandated celibacy is the hierarchy.

How so ever is that? Oh, of course, in the sense that the hierarchy can order around the priests like fraternity pledges. Sure. If you look around enough with your eyes closed you’re bound to see conspiracies everywhere.

6.) The call to priesthood is diminished by mandated celibacy.

Ah, conflation again. The call to priesthood comes from God, not from the person requesting ordination. Now, if he’s willing to argue that the response to the call is diminished, at least that’s arguable. However, that’s less than likely due to the hundreds of years of experience of vocations under the rule of celibacy, even arguing with his asserted timeline. Or is it that he’s arguing that today’s men (not women, of course – remember we don’t want to conflate too many issues here, heads may explode) are simply incapable of handling life without intercourse? Perhaps we should consider the possibility that if those men are incapable of this they just may never have been cut out for the fullness of the priestly call anyway.

7.) Mandated celibacy gives marriage a secondary status.

A common meme, and a tired one. If anything, it elevates the status of marriage. It reminds us that both marriage and ordination demand 100% of the person involved, not 50%. Even those ordained to the diaconate are reminded that their duties to their families must remain preeminent in their lives.

8.) Mandated celibacy obscures the first 11 centuries of a married priesthood.

If it obscures it, it’s only because it’s a rather obscured issue to begin with. While the rule was not enforced uniformly for the entire Latin Church until the Second Lateran Council there is more than ample evidence that it was the accepted practice since apostolic times. Go ahead and enter “celibacy catholic church” into a Google search and read around. The facts of the matter are decidedly against Mr. Grosswirth.

9.) The commandment of Jesus to “love one another” takes on the dimension of “love only thy self” with mandated celibacy.

Interesting. Perhaps Mr. Grosswirth needs to read Deus Caritas Est to understand the multiplicity of dimensions of love. I’ll give him a hint though – love encompasses more than just marital relations. And further, the fullness of the quote is, “love one another as I have loved you”; somehow I don’t think Jesus was married to everyone to whom he spoke.

10.) Availability of the Eucharist is jeopardized with the policy of mandated celibacy.

Only insofar as people use celibacy as an excuse to not listen to the call to the vocation of the priesthood. Perhaps a couple of homilies every now and then on the biblical concepts from point #1 would do a world of good for the issue of vocational responses. One should also note the anecdotal evidence of increased vocations in diocese where doctrinal orthodoxy is considered a high priority. One should further take notice of the fact that most religious denominations are facing a crisis in clergy right now, even though most do not require celibacy. In fact, often the most doctrinally “open” denominations tend to have the greatest problems. This equation is not adding up, sir.

11.) Our liturgy documents call us to active participation. Mandated celibacy calls our priests to a state of subjective pacifism.

I positively don’t even know where to go with this one. Not only does he not understand what the Second Vatican Council called for, he’s conflating issues of the participatio actuosa of the laity with the marital relations (or lack thereof) of the ordained clergy. These two don’t even live in the same city, let alone the same house.

12.) Mandated celibacy can create an unhealthy fear of women.

Many things can create an unhealthy fear of women. It can likewise create a healthier relationship with women because there is no “danger” of a relationship being pursued by either party, if the celibacy is respected by both parties. If celibacy causes a fear of women there likely was already something malformed in the person suffering this fear.

13.) 25,000 priests in the United States entered into marriage. The policy of mandated celibacy keeps them on the sidelines.

And? They broke a canonical law and they received the wages for their actions. Should we next suggest that the policy of only baptising people who accept certain teachings leaves them on the sidelines as well? I honestly wonder if he had a point to make with this or if he was just trying to find a way to get that number in this list somehow. And further, how many of them would be interested in coming back as priests even if they were allowed with no changes to their state? And even then, how many of them would be otherwise properly disposed to come back as priests and uphold the fullness of the Magisterium?

14.) 120,000 priests worldwide entered into marriage. As in the case of U.S. priests, they are sidelined by the policy of mandated celibacy.

He must have been looking for ways to get all 40 points filled out. At best this belongs as a subnote of #13.

15.) The ‘fathers’ of our 5th century church were guilty of distorting the leadership roles played by women of the first four centuries, in an attempt to set the stage toward eventual implementation of mandated celibacy in the 12th century.

Wow. He must have consulted Dan Brown to come up with a multi-generational and multi-century conspiracy theory like this. Do we really need to bring this up again and drag out all the ways women were more well-respected in the early Church than in surrounding societies and how women have even been granted the title of “Doctor of the Church”? I didn’t think so.

16.) A celibate priest should not be a primary source of marriage counseling.

You know, I can see a point here. I really wish he’d actually tried to back it up. The point is more accurately made that a celibate priest has a perspective unclouded by personal interactions that is unattainable by anyone who is or ever has been married. The same can be said in converse for a married marriage counselor. “A primary”? Yes. “The only“? Perhaps not.

17.) Mandated celibacy can lead to faulty theology, such as Thomas Aquinas referring to women as “misbegotten males.”

Again, many things can lead to faulty theology. Thomas Aquinas was not correct on everything he wrote about, embodying in a way the Catholic truth of “development of doctrine”. It feels more like he just wanted to drop a big name here and attempt to make a single instance emblematic of a general problem. It just doesn’t hold much water.

18.) It should be no surprise that the “Fishers of Men” campaign, launched by the U.S. bishops to recruit potential seminarians, was a dismal failure. A counter-campaign needs to be launched, such as “Mandatory Celibacy Does Not Work.”

The “Fishers of Men” campaign, for whatever level of failure it was, simply was so due to a lack of urgency on the parts of some bishops and their staffs. How, exactly, this is supposed to detract from the concept of a celibate priesthood is at best a tangential relationship.

19.) Our bishops are guilty of hypocrisy: While rejecting optional celibacy, they nevertheless welcome married Protestant ministers who wish to convert to Catholicism and serve as Roman Catholic priests.

Our bishops did precisely what they should have done. They dispensed with a rule when it was pastorally prudent. This is perhaps one of the greatest problem in dealing with priestly celibacy – “why some, but not others?” Time fails my ability to articulate their decision now, but suffice it to say it was with great care that Pope John Paul II opened that door.

20.) The pope should not have absolute authority on the issue of mandated celibacy. The road to optional celibacy can be paved when individual bishops are allowed to use married priests on an as-needed basis.

This is arguable either way, since it was not a truly “universal” rule until the Second Lateran Council. The real problem with this statement is its real intent – to gain leverage over bishops who otherwise might be sympathetic or at least apathetic to their cause without the support and encouragement of the Pope. And given the axiom “once a right is given it is nearly impossible to remove” and the views of those who clamor for a non-celibate priesthood that such is their “right” this would lead to the eventual end of celibacy universally. While they can deny their desire for this conclusion, the facts and human history point in only one direction.

21.) Bishops are afraid that optional celibacy will lead to further discussion on the ordination of women. The policy of mandatory celibacy will not silence this debate. Women must become equal partners at the altar.

Whoa. Back to conflation again. I don’t understand how the policy of mandatory celibacy would silence the debate if, in fact, as he suggests in points 6 and 10 that it in fact causes the continual re-opening of discussion on the nature of and rules regarding the priesthood. He is trying to have it both ways, and neither of them in the end add up to much.

22.) Jesus took the bread, broke it, and gave it to his disciples (men & women). He did not say, “let celibate men alone do this in memory of me.”

I’m rather curious of the exact exegesis of this. If I read Mark 14 correctly, He was at table with the Twelve which does not include any women. This also implies the command to “do this in memory of me” was given primarily to the Church he had formed and specifically to the Apostles, the predecessors of the Bishops. And once again, the point he tries (and fails) to make is that the rule of celibacy is a rule not a doctrine. But nobody is arguing that point. One wonders why he tries to make it a point of contention.

23.) When Jesus turned water into wine at Cana, it was not for the sole purpose of enhancing the party. It was rather a witnessing event for the men and women present, so they together could go out and preach the good news as an inclusive discipleship. There was no mandated celibacy at this gathering.

When Jesus turned water into wine at Cana it was for the purpose of Divine Revelation, to reveal to those there and those who were to come in the future something of Himself, His relation to His Father and His relation with his mother, Mary. And since it was a wedding, of course there was no mandated celibacy; the point attempts to reach to incredulity. Further, this was not directly related to the sacramental act of consecration in any way, despite whatever kind of catechesis he may be suffering from.

24.) When Jesus multiplied the fish and the loaves, it was an example all men and women of faith were to follow, whereby they were expected to feed the hungry and nourish their spirituality as well. There was no place for mandated celibacy at the scene of this commissioning.

Lordy, lordy, but he is trying to fill out his points. He has become desperate already, and we’re barely halfway there. This act doesn’t speak to celibacy one way or the other as it is again an act of Divine Revelation, revealing something of the coming Kingdom and simultaneously revealing how we should act collectively. Celibacy is neither buoyed nor pulled down in this instance – it isn’t mentioned at all.

25.) When a priest invokes the Holy Spirit to come upon the gifts to make them holy, the Holy Spirit does not come because it is a celibate priest extending the invitation. The Holy Spirit rather comes on behalf of an inclusive community, whereby artificial barriers between the celibate and non-celibate are erased.

Bzzzt. And thus you are unsuited to be a Catholic priest, beyond your restriction due to your married state. The Holy Spirit comes via the action of the priest acting in persona Christi, not by virtue of the community, whether it be inclusive or exclusive. Perhaps too much time spent in horizontal liturgies has caused the good Mr. Grosswirth to misunderstand exactly how the Holy Sacrifice works.

26.) The image of a celibate male as the highest form of piety is a sacrilege, especially when the Vatican instructs Anglicans that the consecration of women bishops will be a barrier to ecumenical talks.

The image of a celibate male as the highest form of piety? Interesting. Wrong, but interesting. The role of piety in the call to celibacy is indeed strong, but that is a personal piety on the part of the person being ordained. As for our Anglican brethren and the (again) conflation with this issue and the ordination of women, the Vatican has said repeatedly that … no, wait, I’m not letting him pull me into that hole. One issue at a time, sir.

27.) The so-called ‘priesthood shortage’ is of the Vatican’s own making. Mandated celibacy is no longer a noble pursuit – not that it ever was.

Well, at best, that’s a person’s opinion, lacking even an attempt to back it up with facts. If he took the time and effort to look into the statistics he would see that other denominations which allow both married priests and even those who allow women to be “ordained” are having problems attracting people to their ministerial roles. And as for it being a noble pursuit, perhaps he needs to go and read again the bible verses pointed out under his point #1. Jesus told us himself celibacy is a noble goal; who should we believe, Jesus or Mr. Grosswirth?

28.) Seminaries, once a staple of the American landscape, are quickly fading into the sunset. The reason is simply the expected adherence to mandatory celibacy as one completes the formation process.

There is one single reason we don’t have all the priests we could ask for? Really? Mr. Grosswirth, you insult everyone who has ever seriously discerned the priesthood and not followed through to ordination due to reasons other than celibacy. If the problem were that simple, even the Bishops for whom you show such un-Christian disdain, being that they are the descendants of the Apostles, could have figured that out. The fact of the matter is there are many issues causing this current perceived shortage of which celibacy is but a small fraction.

29.) A healthy formation program would ideally be one in which a prospective priest is not chosen on the sole basis of promised obedience to a bishop and a promise to live a celibate life. A forced lifestyle, for the sake of the priesthood, can lead to multiple dysfunctions.

Once again, multiple things can lead to multiple dysfunctions. And if you have been paying any attention for the last 40 years or so, obedience to a bishop is hardly something we’ve seen from everyone who comes out of priestly formation in seminary. We could wish it were, but it simply is not. As for the promise to live a celibate life, given that it accords with following the Canonical laws of the Church and is in direct line with the principle of sentire cum ecclesia, that certainly should be part of priestly formation. Not all of it, but certainly a part of it. After all, it’s not like our priests spend four or more years in major seminary learning nothing but submission to the bishop and celibacy.

30.) Early councils of the church argued over the nature of Jesus, until such time it was agreed that He was fully human and fully divine. His human nature was to be with us, minus any distinctions between married, single, male or female persons. He promised the Kingdom to all the faithful. Mandated celibacy does not give a priest a special status or front-row seat in the Kingdom.

Nobody said it did. Doing the will of the Father is the only thing that matters in the Kingdom. And part of doing that will is listening to what the Church His Son established on this earth has to say about matters. But a nice job of (again) conflating matters which have nothing to do with each other.

31.) The desire for a policy of optional celibacy should be equated with a desire for inclusivity, as opposed to disobedience to a bishop.

The desire, as long as it is manifested within the tradition of sentire cum ecclesia, certainly could be equated with inclusivity. When it is manifested in the form Mr. Grosswirth displayed with his ordination, wherein proper respect for the Church’s Magisterium is bypassed and direct disrespect is shown to the Bishop of the particular church in which the ordination took place, however, its goal can only be equated with disobedience rather than a mere, and human, disagreement. Just as we are under God, we are under His Church and if we cannot immediately conform to her calls our proper response is neither to disrespect her nor to leave. By his actions, Mr. Grosswirth did both.

32.) As long as the mandated celibacy policy continues, our priests will continue to be victims of burn-out, considering our current ratio of one celibate priest per 3,500 Catholics in the United States.

This, of course, assumes once again that merely lifting the celibacy rule would spring forth such great numbers of good and worthy priests we would never face a shortage again. As has been said repeatedly already, the statistics – the facts – do not bear this assumption out.

33.) Although statistics indicate the number of Catholics in the United States is steadily increasing, parish closings are increasing as well. The blame for this can be at least partially placed on our pontiff’s insistence that the mandated celibacy policy for priests remains intact. The Vatican’s solution is to ‘warehouse’ Catholics into mega-churches. Let married priests come to the rescue!

Ah, so he finally admits it may only be “partially” to blame. Well, that’s getting somewhere. There are other facts, such as the changing demographics of the Church in the United States as well as the changing geographic layout of parishioners to parishes. Huge numbers of churches were built in the last century to reflect the communities of different immigrant ethnicities. As these groups have broken up in subsequent generations and moved out to the exurbs, the genuine need for some of these churches has waned. That is not to say either that the closing of any church is not a painful and unwanted occurrence nor that it is the only reason, but it is at least equally as compelling as the theory of celibacy. And hey, it has measurable statistics rather than unsubstantiated rumor and innuendo. That’s a much better starting place.

34.) The imposition of mandatory celibacy had nothing to do with theology; it was rather an economic decision.

Sorry, but once again you failed your history test sir. Indeed, economics did play a part as there were somewhat shady deals between kings and priests and bishops regarding appointing of bishops and their marriages to the right ladies that caused a considerable stain on the Church for a time. But to suggest it was merely an economic decision disregards the impact the appearance of impropriety and scandal had on the faithful – something we can understand perhaps more readily now after the sexual abuse scandal.

35.) Simplistic theology used by our hierarchy suggests that since Jesus was celibate, priests should live likewise. In the first place, we don’t know for sure that Jesus was celibate. (Neither his sexuality nor his marital status were discussed by the Gospel writers.) Anyone who could prove that Jesus was celibate would be hard-pressed to make the case that He expected his followers to be celibate.

First, see under point #1. Second, the attempt to recreate a “historical” Jesus in a desired mold is old hat and by now routinely discarded as an outmoded attempt to conform God to one’s image of Him rather than to conform one’s self to God’s image. And frankly, that’s why we have this neat thing we Catholics like to call big-T Tradition. That’s how we know how things were and what Jesus would have taught – it has been handed down to us from the Apostles and those who learned it directly from the Apostles.

36.) During the past decade, a few writers have substantiated claims that many so-called celibate priests have been involved in clandestine relationships. Keeping these relationships secret allows them to maintain their canonical priesthood. However, a validated relationship, such as a marriage, results in dismissal from the canonical state. This begs the question: How many priests are truly living according to a mandated celibate state?

What, exactly, does this do to improve the case for a married priesthood? To suggest that because some priests have failed in their duty to obey the rule of celibacy is reason to discard it is ludicrous. Would we equally discard the rule against murder or theft or running a red light because some people kill or steal or decide to run a red light? Hardly.

37.) Mary Magdalene and Mary, mother of Jesus, remained at the foot of the Cross, while the male disciples ran, due to fear. The injustice, in terms of our priesthood, is that celibate men can be ordained and faithful women cannot. This needs to change!

Well, glad to see he has gone back to conflation. This has nothing to do with a married priesthood and not much more to do with the idea of whether the Church can ordain women. Really, was 40 that hard a number to reach?

38.) We have been taught to believe that to be in union with Rome, one must subscribe to all of the church’s core teachings, including the teaching on clerical celibacy. Although technically a policy, as opposed to a core belief, priests are nevertheless prohibited from questioning their bishops on the topic of celibacy. Bishops, in turn, are consistently told they are to refrain from talking about celibacy, since this is an issue reserved exclusively for the pontiff. It is time to allow open and honest dialogue!

The Bishops are free to talk about celibacy as long as it does not cause scandal to the Church, the Body of Christ. The rule of celibacy has been deferred to the Holy Father because it was deemed important enough to guarantee a uniform rule throughout the Latin Church. One can be quite certain that a Bishop can question the Pope about the rule of celibacy either during his ad limina visit or in other various methods, all of which I do not know. The Bishop may even learn a thing or two – I do wish more Bishops would consult with the Holy Father even in issues where jurisdiction is not deferred solely to him. Even St. Paul deferred to St. Peter for a final decision even after directly contradicting him.

39.) Those of us committed to reform will not be silent on the issue of mandated clerical celibacy. Furthermore, we will not be silent on the issue of sexist ordination policies. We want change, and we want it now!

Oh goody, sign me up! That really seals the deal. What a theological masterpiece. This is apparently Mr. Grosswirth’s version of stomping his feet on the ground and turning red. Shall he next insist that he will hold his breath if he doesn’t get his way?

40.) Jesus invited all who were thirsty to come to the water. Multitudes of Roman Catholics around the world have come to the water, and are seeking nourishment that can only be provided with a sufficient number of priests to tend to their sacramental needs. Mandatory celibacy is a hindrance, as opposed to an instrument of faith. Those of called to active ministry will be agents of the Gospel, with or without the blessings of Rome.

Then they will be agents outside the communion of the one, holy and catholic Church. It is sad to see you go, Mr. Grosswirth, but the Church does hope you will learn how to sentire cum ecclesia some day and that your excommunication may be lifted. If that day should come, I will be the first to offer you the sign of Christ’s peace. Until then, I can only pray the Holy Spirit may open your eyes to the damage you do to the Body of Christ by your words and actions.

If anyone has made it this far, a great – no, phenomenal – piece of work on this subject is available in the October issue of Crisis magazine where Rev. Ray Ryland takes apart the “historical” case for a married priesthood. He does a much better job of putting things in their appropriate perspective than I could ever hope to. Highly recommended reading.

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Dec 07 2006

What a day…

Published by ubipetrus under apologetics

Today was just one of “those” days. You know, the ones where you get positively discouraged by the time they’re all over. At work today I had to sit through to gentlemen discussing their views on religion, the Catholic Church and the historical existence of Jesus. And all the while having to bite my tongue because their views were not exactly in the realm of well-informed.

The whole mess started about I remember not what. The comment that caught my attention was, “who do they think they are telling anyone what to do when their priests were doing [fill in the blank] in the churches themselves – they need to clean up their own act before they tell anyone what to do”. I’d like to think my blood pressure only went up a few notches at that point, but I’d probably be lying. How long, O Lord, will our enemies hold this against us? And perhaps in my more agitated state my thought was, “and just who do these people think they are telling the Church when and what they can say?” Perhaps our greatest failing as a society in this day and age is our utter inability to let wounds heal. If this were the first example it would be one thing, but we as Americans have in recent times been faced with slave reparations, Islamophobia in the form of terming any actions against terrorists “Crusades”, failure to stop the Holocaust, intolerance of any and all “lifestyle choices” … the list goes on. Let me give these folks a hint – let it go. Trust me, you’ll feel better afterwards.

Then there was the comment which followed, “well really, what did you expect, they all think their buddy just created the universe so you can’t expect too much from them”. Ugh. Yes, anyone who is open to the concept that the universe isn’t a completely random chance of colliding accidents is a pedestrian simpleton. Of course. Should I remind them that some of the greatest minds in the history of the world were devoutly religious? No, I suppose that might just have a deleterious effect on their world view which as we all know is not an acceptable thing to do. We’ve replaced “evangelization” and “education” with “religious oppression”. So in the name of tolerance we are forced to allow people to wallow in their shallow pools instead of swimming in the great oceans of understanding. Brilliant. Now who is the Neanderthal?

And then of course, the cake topper. “Jesus didn’t really exist – the only non-Christian who ever wrote about him was a guy named Josephus and they can prove that he didn’t actually write the words attributed to him.” Ah, yes, he’s talking about the Testimonium Flavianum. While I’m no ancient writings exegete, wikipedia has a good, balanced page about it here, and there are other discussions of it here, here, here, here, and even here. I’m sure there are many more resources, but that’s a good starter. Suffice it to say the balance of opinion, excluding the shouters on either end of the spectrum, is that there is a very high probability that Josephus did at least write about Jesus if not in the glowing terms we see in the present copies of the Testimonium. So yet again I get to be bombarded by a poorly understood misrepresentation of simple facts (albeit with complex paths trodden by experts). In an open office environment. And I have to keep my mouth shut because otherwise I’m likely to get myself in a heap of trouble. Religious freedom indeed. Fortunately for my sanity and continued employment my suffering was ended by a well-timed cell phone call to my co-worker.

The good news is I had the opportunity to sit down and listen to Choral Treasure again tonight, which took much of the edge off. Now that I’ve had all this fun, ’tis time to look forward to this again tomorrow. Once more unto the breach my brethren!

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